The Detroit area and the job scene here has seen a fair share of ups and downs over the years. Many folks in the Detroit metro area still have the economic challenges of 2008 seared into their minds.

But since 2001, a group that has been bringing tech professionals together – and helping them get jobs – has been IT in the D.

For our 10th episode of the Daily Detroit Happy Hour, Sven Gustafson sits down with Dave Phillips and Bob Waltenspiel to talk about their new job training initiative with the Michigan Economic Development Corporation in Flint, the history of the popular “Don’t be that guy” series of blog posts, not being afraid to say what you think, and more.

It’s an interesting and lively conversation crossing a wide variety of topics. Of course, if you’d like to subscribe for free to the show, we’re on Apple Podcasts here.

Both the Daily Detroit Happy Hour and IT in the D are on the Podcast Detroit network.