8 Things to Know Around Detroit + A Few Minutes with Jemele Hill

Norris Howard is back in the studio, and we've got a lot of ground to cover: Host's plans for Chroma, Baobab Fare's east-side expansion, housing in the North End, a new artisan market on 6 Mile, and Literati's move in Ann Arbor.

Plus, Detroit City FC has a home playoff game this Friday.

Then it's into politics with a week before election day. Wae talk through early voting, the latest polls, and what we're seeing on the ground with one week until Election Day.

Finally, Norris catches up with Jemele Hill at the Detroit Public Theatre for a few minutes on Spolitics, her Detroit roots, and why getting involved matters beyond the presidential election.

You can see her full conversation with Dr. Abdul El-Sayed here:

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01:02 – Host coming to Detroit at Chroma
04:26 – Baobab Fare East groundbreaking
07:34 – Big roads on the west side vs small roads on the east side
08:34 – North End Landing - 177 Affordable housing units - gets $3m
09:33 – Literati in Ann Arbor is moving, expanding
11:37 – $9m Artisan Market, event space coming to Detroit's west side
13:46 – Detroit City FC Playoffs this weekend at home
16:53 – One Week Until Election Day Politics
20:30 – On the ground: Jemele Hill, Obama Rally, Heather Cox Richardson
26:22 – Talking Spolitics with Jemele Hill in Detroit

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Hello friends, welcome to your Daily Detroit, sharing what to know and where to go in Southeast Michigan. I am Jer Staes.

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It is Tuesday, October 27th, 2026. Joining me at the studio at TechTown is none other than Mr. Norris Howard, the Prince of Brightmoor himself. How are you doing?

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The west side is back in business and we are here in the Paris of the Midwest, Detroit. So excited to be back.

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And I'm so excited to go through what looks like a ton of stories on this rundown. We have a ton of ground to cover, my friend.

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Yeah, things are happening and we got, we're going to pop all around the city and the metro today and share with you some, some great news and cool restaurant openings and developments and, and all sorts of stuff that most of us should be very happy about.

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So let's start with the restaurants and the dining. So Host is bringing its third restaurant to Detroit with coffee and brunch during the day and rotating chefs handling dinner service. The restaurant is planned for the Chroma building on East Grand Boulevard. At about 4,000 square feet, it'll be Host's largest location, joining its restaurants in Utica and Romeo. Owner Michael Ivkov says the opening brings him back to the city where he helped launch the Stockyard food truck and pop-up dinner series more than a decade ago.

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The plan includes an in-house team creating a seasonal brunch menu, plus lunch, cocktails, and a dinner program built around visiting chefs. The first resident chef and menus have not been announced. Host says it plans to open in 2027 with an exact date still to come. If you don't know, Chroma on East Grand Boulevard is that building with the girl with the D earring, the giant mural, recently purchased by Doug Song and folks.

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Tons of different businesses and such in there, but that space on the ground floor has always been an opportunity to really activate in a big way. And I feel like this only adds to what's becoming more and more of a food district up here in kind of the New Center Milwaukee Junction area.

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I was about to say that. Like actually, you know, when we're looking at, you know, you got Freya, Dragonfly, Oak & Reel, lower now have Host over there, and you know, Keysling as well. You know, it's starting to become an area that people are having great opportunities to get good food.

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And you know, what I really appreciate about this movement in particular is that that Chroma building is massive, and I always worry about when people make these investments into sort of these kind of stand-alone medium rises or stand-alone high rises in kind of what I would consider parts of the neighborhoods.

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And, you know, to see that people are still excited to see more things going in there and going over there, it's a good sign. You know, this is an area that a lot of people don't know, but there's a number of lofts over there now that people are in. There's a number of smaller businesses kind of hid in the back on Milwaukee that you'll be able to get to, Vault of Midnight right there on the Boulevard, Jam Handy, The Fitz. Like that corridor over there, it's just kind of dope now.

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I am wondering when the streetscape improvements and such will start to catch up with it. Right? Because it's still not the best experience to walk between these bars. And it could be. Or driving. I mean, let's just be honest.

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And so I think if they could do a little bit of streetscape up there, that could really kick things off in a major way. Another thing is there's a few different opportunities for apartment buildings and such. I also heard that there's going to be a breakfast place opening up in the former gas station dispensary right over there. So it's like the pieces are all starting to like slot in.

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But now I feel like in some areas of town, we do a streetscape and then everybody shows up. In this part of town, it feels like everybody's showing up, and then we really... Yeah, we need to do something over there to tie that together.

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Well, I mean, that's essentially what happened in Midtown was that like all the people showed up and then we decided, you know, okay, we need to put some infrastructural improvements over there. Listen, sometimes the chicken comes before the egg, sometimes the egg appears out of nowhere. It is what it is.

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You know, speaking of that, you know, Baobab Fare is kind of in that area, and they're going to put it in that area. Yeah, yeah, at Woodward and Grand Boulevard. Well, they're going to be opening up their second location, as we mentioned on the show. I went to the groundbreaking over there in East English Village.

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It was good to see Chef Mamba and get my eyes on what's going to be a 3,000-square-foot, $2.5 million project to get Baobab Fare on the east side. I mean, it's a great move. It's interesting, when I posted the newsletter to DailyDetroit.com, a lot of people were saying, "Man, I really wish it was going to be in Ferndale or Oakland County or Ann Arbor because that's where they come for Baobab Fare."

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I think it's going to do well on the east side, though. I think there's a lot of potential there. Oh, I think you're going to see a lot of people from the Grosse Pointes over there. You still got a lot of folks from Eastpointe who will be able to come down and go over there and and and all that good stuff. And listen, let me just say this, you know, Baobab Fare has become, and Chef Mamba's story and his family's story has become...

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one of the, one of the big Ws I think of sort of this new Detroit project, if you will, when we're talking about people coming to the city of Detroit, making the most of what the city has to offer while at the same time providing and adding to the tapestry that is this beautiful city. I have to give Chef Mamba and his family all the props and all the praise because not only have people responded well to Baobab Fare and Waka and all the projects that he's doing...

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The food is magnificent. It is like nowhere near, this is not a hype brand. The proof is in the pudding, is in the lamb shank, so to speak, okay? Because it's delicious and I go all the time and I can't wait to check out this new, this new location. Jer, hit them with the, where the location at one more time.

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16900 East Warren. So think about Warren right before it like runs into Mack in that area. And you know what, the East English Village neighborhood, shout out to them, because that's a neighborhood that's got tons of rooftops, but not a lot of stuff, right? We were driving through the streets there and those blocks are so well kept up over there.

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And it's almost like the reverse problem that I have in my neighborhood where we've got some nice stuff like we were just talking about West Village and all that, and then there's a lot of areas where the blocks are empty. There, there's a lot of housing, but the commercial strip hadn't really kicked off yet.

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Yeah, and you know, I think a lot of it, you know, when you're talking about over there, you still had like Harper and Cadieux and all that type of stuff, so the commercial corridors were there, but they were all filled with like big chains. At least in my lifetime, a lot of the small businesses had left at the time. Now we're starting to see a lot of those small businesses return.

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I'm very excited for this, and like you said, East English Village has been so stable for so long, they deserve to maybe have people from Grosse Pointe come over and enjoy their neighborhood for a change. Now I was talking to another one of your fellow Westsiders in Big Louchee, who helps out with the show. That's right, Westside. And we were discussing this. You know, on the east side, I'm so used to relatively narrow streets. Even Warren Avenue over there is not that wide.

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Compared to the west side. Also, the fact that our names on the east side, a lot of them are French, but you all, a lot of your things are like named like Fordson or Tel, like it's like the two roads put together, and the road's like six lanes wide.

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Yeah, we got a lot of stroads on the west side. Like all of the mile roads are stroads by the time you get to the other side of, really once you get to the other side of Woodward and definitely once you get to the other side of Livernois, like all the mile roads are just these big stroads. But also I think the difference with the west side is like we don't have no one-ways.

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Like there are no... Oh, we got one-ways for days. There are no one-ways like really on the west side like that. That's why it baffles me. But even our residential streets are slightly wider than your residentials because those streets on the east side were built for people and not for cars. Speaking of an area with a lot of one-way roads, the North End.

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Ah, yes. And I have word that the Michigan Economic Development Corporation announced through their Michigan Strategic Fund approval for funding for the North End Landing redevelopment project in Detroit that'll construct 177 residential units for affordable housing.

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They approved what will be up to $3 million in tax capture eligible activities. Basically, they're able to leverage that to get funding for their project. Hey, sounds sounds good to me. You know, they're getting some help from the state to be able to boost up residential out there. And I'm excited about that.

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Again, another another dub. See, this this what we try to do here on Daily Detroit. Now, if you're somebody who's looking to potentially get into one of these neighborhoods or move down to the city, maybe North End is a place you should look at because there's going to be some major improvements coming to that area through this program. For sure, for sure.

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Now, before we change gears, I want to mention about something in Ann Arbor. I know it might be blasphemy for us to mention Ann Arbor, but... No, Ann Arbor, listen, I know some of y'all may not consider it Metro Detroit, I still consider it Metro Detroit. The Census considers it Metro Detroit. There you go, so it doesn't matter.

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The business community considers it Metro Detroit. Absolutely. Also I mention this because this is such a destination. So Literati is moving, the bookstore, to the former downtown Home & Garden spot with a pop-up starting this holiday season. That will be at 210 South Ashley Street.

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This is an interesting one because Literati, I see it get so much attention, and deservedly so, because it's a really cool bookstore. It looks beautiful there with the, if you've ever seen their typewriter sign up there, there's like typewriter keys. It's really, really cute, but it's a cramped space at this point.

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It's a small space, and I think looking at a place like Literati, which has become a destination over the past few years, expanding is only going to help them. Listen, I have gone to Literati and bought books from there for many, many years, and I think what is really interesting and really cool about the space is the fact that it does feel homey, it feels painfully Ann Arbor.

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Like it is so Ann Arbor, and that's part of why I like it. But I think also looking at it as a business, like you would go downstairs into that little basement area that they have, and it was just really cramped. You could tell that they didn't necessarily have the space to expand a lot more.

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And now they're going to be able to be more flexible, carry more books, expand some of the sections that maybe need a little bit of love, particularly in modern history, cultural studies, and African American history sections. I think this is all a fantastic thing.

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So you want to take us to the west side? Yeah, so on the west side, I wanted to share out there's going to be an almost $9 million new development coming to 6 Mile, as we call it, but some of you may call it McNichols. Who calls it McNichols? Listen, there are a lot of people who are just touching down in the city. They don't know, and they see the sign.

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It's not McNichols. Don't call it McNichols, y'all. It's 6 Mile. Just call it 6 Mile, and don't call Fenkell 5 Mile, it's 5-1. Anyway! But this is going to be just west of Livernois on 6 Mile. It's going to be an Artisan Market, 20 business street-level retail business spaces, as well as an event space that is supposed to almost function as sort of a community hub for all of the development that's been going on in that area.

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So there's already like a hall over there, there is a new bar that they just put over there, then there was the non-alcoholic bar that was over there, I think a new pizza place over there. So they've been putting things in place trying to revitalize that neighborhood just down the street from Marygrove College for those who need another landmark.

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And this is also another thing that's getting federal dollars to be able to flush out one of Detroit's neighborhoods, and once again seeing the development go to those strong neighborhoods as we said, East English Village, Bagley, Sherwood, Southwest, Corktown. These are neighborhoods that have kind of held together through Detroit's dark days and they're starting to see more investment because of it.

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Shout out to occasional Daily Detroit guest Chase Cantrell, who is one of the developers behind this project. One of the most thoughtful guys I know. I hope we get to have him on soon the podcast again for sure.

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[Music] All right Norris Howard, we are here after much, much discussion, much waiting, much, much, many, many pizza slices. Detroit City FC is in the playoffs with a home game versus Hartford. Let me talk about it. It is this Friday night.

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It's this Friday coming up, and listen, I was a little bit bummed out because I wanted us to get that number two slot, particularly because Hartford has been a hard out for us over this season. They beat us 2-1 at home on my birthday in May, which I was very dismayed about, and then we had that 1-1 draw which we were at that game where a penalty was given on the last kick of the game to Hartford and we were very PO'd about that.

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But we shared that match out as well. Listen, when it comes to Detroit and now that we're playing at home, obviously you will say the advantage lies in Detroit City FC's court. But the offensive side of the ball still has to get figured out. We still have not necessarily put the ball in the back of the net in the ways that I think we should.

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I think this is a game that is screaming out for players like Maxi Rodriguez and for Yekeson Hernandez Foster to have big games. And I think also we need to be looking at Shekul Young, who is our new signing 6'6" striker that we got from FC Cincinnati 2. He actually had a really, really, really threatening match against Louisville last weekend, but he just couldn't find the back of the net.

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But I think if we could deploy him kind of around the 65th, 70th minute if it's still 1-1 or 0-0 or something like that, maybe he could come on and make a difference. I think personally, for Detroit City to win this match, they're going to have to go out and they're going to have to be very aggressive very early on.

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The more teams have settled in against DCFC, the more they've been able to kind of see out draws or see out wins or kind of stifle this Detroit offense. And I think this is going to be a big opportunity for some of the big-time players to make a statement, like I said, Maxi, the rookie Yamazaki who was named Player of the Season a couple weeks ago.

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This is going to be a big, big test for Detroit City FC, but I think ultimately it is a test they will pass. I cannot wait. I am looking so much forward to the fun, the food, everything. Tickets are still available as of this recording, plus you can watch free on CBS Sports Golazo Network or stream on Paramount+.

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So, more media coverage for Detroit as well, which I think is absolutely wonderful. Yeah, national coverage. We're going to be national, y'all, so make sure y'all wash up and put on your best clothes and show up and show out because you already know Northern Guard is going to bring it.

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[Music] All right, let me end the show on some political stuff because it is that season, Norris Howard. One week left. I'm keeping it in segments, I'm keeping it contained. We're going to have a big, big preview episode that we're going to record on Friday, which I'm very excited about.

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But I think we need to talk about what's happening on the ground now. I know a lot of people are very interested in it because there's just been a lot shifting out there. Early voting is up in a big way in Detroit, yes. In the city of Detroit, some of the early numbers came back that said there are... I believe the last numbers I saw, something like 20% increase in early voting returns at this same juncture as the last midterm.

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And listen, you know, I think that can only be a good thing if the city of Detroit is voting in big numbers. This is heartening. Also I will say, straight up and down, if you have the opportunity to vote early or to vote in person, I would advise you to do so. The Secretary of State has also said that if you were planning to vote by mail, it's too late.

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Drop it off at a drop box, drop it off in person at the clerk's office right up here on the Boulevard if you can. If not, go in and vote early or vote on election day. It is now too late to drop it in the mail, it will not be counted. And you can vote early across the state. This is not just a city of Detroit thing, I know although we have the plurality of listeners in the city of Detroit, the majority of listeners are all over the region.

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Yes, but we also have the majority of listeners in the whole state because the majority of the state lives in Southeast Michigan. That's true, that's true. So if you're going to be, go out there and do it. It's a very important thing. So let me talk about... listen, we haven't been following polls as much as we have... Please don't.

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We haven't. And I want to say all this stuff with the idea that I know that people groan at poll coverage, but then I also know the data. I also know y'all actually want to hear about the polls a little bit. So let's dive into where we're at right now just kind of in a big sense. Number one, I think the top line is that Jocelyn Benson is holding the line very well against John James. Yeah.

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So I'm just going to leave it there, because I think that's... That is the story. That is the story. That is the story. I mean, when it comes to John James, I don't think his campaign has been doing a lot to make his case known. And I think for Benson, all she had to do was keep the lights on and make sure she doesn't say anything crazy. But this Senate race is interesting because the polling diverges a little bit.

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You had one poll recently, that was a Michigan State poll that put them very, very close together. And then there's a new poll out with the Detroit News of all places and WDIV and Glengariff that puts El-Sayed up in a very comfortable way, 51.4 to 45.1. Crucially enough, tying him with Benson. And that's always the big question. Is the 50% mark.

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It's the 50% mark and it's how much that Abdul is going to be behind Benson. So there's two different polls with two different stories, right? And I think it's going to be interesting how the sub-tabs all kind of break down with this thing. And I will note the Decision Desk HQ, their polling average has now, it was narrowed, now it's widened out to El-Sayed +3.1.

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And the only way I can look at this lens, Norris Howard, is what we see on the ground. And so like the numbers could be cut so many different ways. So you and I have been at a bunch of things. Yes. And so let me talk about our experiences on the ground. Yeah, I've been to a lot. I obviously... It sounds like you're about to go into therapy. Yeah, I might need to.

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But, you know, I've been to a myriad of events here in Southeast Michigan, particularly with the El-Sayed campaign. And, you know, I have seen kind of the energy. At the start of this general election, there was very much so the energy of, this feels very much like a white, middle class, educated person's candidate, right? There was not a lot of intersectionality when it came to Detroiters, when it came to Black voters...

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when it came to, even to be honest with you, you weren't even seeing that many Arab folks at some of these rallies at the very, very beginning of the general. That has changed dramatically, dramatically over the past month and a half. Everything I've seen in Detroit has been very, very sort of either Black-centric or city-centric.

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I was at the Obama event at Cass Tech and that was very much so a little bit of everyone, but still mostly Black Detroit residents. And I just think the closer we've gotten to election day and the more and more the Trump administration continues to kind of double down on the very, very Islamic-phobic, very racist rhetoric, to be quite honest with you, then it has pushed a lot of people into the El-Sayed camp who may be were thinking about staying home or sitting on the fence.

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We went to an event with Jemele Hill and Abdul directly addressing a lot of these very practical issues out there, because there are a lot of divisions out there, but then there's also a lot of things that unite us, including gas prices. And I thought it was interesting to see her apply her journalism and her lens and her Spolitics podcast to talking to Abdul.

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By the way, I'll put a link in the show notes to the entire conversation so that you can check it out, but I thought it was a very thoughtful conversation. Yeah, I thought so too, and I appreciated the fact that she did indeed press him on particularly his sort of stances and plans for the African American community.

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And I thought something that he said was very poignant, which was, "I'm not one to come to this community, particularly Detroit, and speak platitudes to you." I think that was a really interesting thing that I felt in the room resonated with a lot of folks. I went to a different kind of event. I went out to see Heather Cox Richardson with Red Wine and Blue out in Walled Lake.

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I got to say this, and it was a very... the room was very 8.5 x 11. It was very... wonderful, wonderful, mostly women out there, wonderful people. And what I thought was interesting was in this group that you would think that might, might be split on somebody like Abdul, they were not. Wow.

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These people showed up, locked in. It was the same night as Obama, and so Mallory McMorrow went out there, and let me tell you, those women love Mallory McMorrow. As she is of them. And she is, but you know what, she's such a politician... like she's very much into policy, she was focusing on the local issues that were happening, because there's been a lot of drama with our local state races, there's been a lot of drama with school boards, all kinds of things.

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Oh boy, let's not get started on school board races. And so that local focus on what can happen and change in our everyday I think is really smart by her and kind of this post-Senate thing. I also, I mean, listen, I feel bad for her about that fake poll. Yeah. That was... that's another reason I'm a little nervous about the polls this year, is because there was a poll if you weren't following, that was basically the nail in the coffin for...

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the McMorrow campaign that after it went out, everybody pulled their money and their stuff. Well, turns out that polling outfit was just doing an experiment and it wasn't a real polling outfit. No, but see, a part of me just feels like that was them covering tracks and a lot of them were just like, "Oh, http, JK, just a joke, guys."

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Like, you know, it was just... it was very dubious the way the whole thing came about, but it was something that ultimately ended up halting her campaign and stopping it in its tracks. But listen, McMorrow, I got to give her a lot of credit because what she has done is essentially was the first to come out and endorse and support Abdul El-Sayed and has continued her vocal support of Abdul El-Sayed in the streets, in the campaign materials, and all over the place.

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And unlike some others, unequivocally. I don't, you know, I don't want to get too deep into that right now, but if you have been paying attention to his other opponent Haley Stevens, who has very much so been kind of throwing these really weird shots, appearing on some of the Sunday shows and in other news outlets, basically saying, "He is the nominee and I'm behind the nominee, but we disagree on certain issues."

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And you know, it's just always kind of this conditional sort of support, whereas McMorrow has just flat out said, "This is my guy and I'm rocking with him." Yeah. As always, I want to know what you all think, DailyDetroit@gmail.com. Before we go, we got a little clip to play for you. Yeah? You got to catch up with somebody? Yeah, got to catch up with Jemele Hill, who was very gracious enough to share some time with us and talk a little bit about her platform and why it was important for her to have these types of conversations, particularly in the city of Detroit.

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"How you doing, Jemele? Norris from Daily Detroit."
"Nice to see you, Norris."
"This is Jer, our producer."
"So I think the first thing I want to ask is talking about Spolitics. What made it that you wanted to go into this space right now? I know you've made a career on speaking about cultural issues and sports together, but what made it so that the political angle wanted to come in for you right now?"

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"Well, it was a few reasons. One, I think it's helpful, honestly, to use sports to explain things that are happening in our country. Those same things are happening in sports. Whether we're talking about inequality, whether we're talking about structural issues, like all of those things persist in sports. But I find that the ability to listen and understand those issues is different when you use sports as an example."

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"You know, like during the conversation, Dr. El-Sayed brought up the fact that he is looking at the situation that young athletes are in, and he's relating it to some wider structural issues and problems that we have. That's the beauty and the power of sports. In terms of entering specifically the political space, well, one, it's like I'm from Michigan, I'm from Detroit, and I know that this is a really important race, and I thought, I think it's really important that Detroiters especially feel invested in what's happening."

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"You know, I still have friends here, I got family here, and they talk about some of the things that they see as key issues, some of the problems, some of the things they're really excited about, and they deserve an opportunity to assess candidates for themselves, to assess people to see like, 'Is this somebody that is going to do right by this city and right by this state?' So if I can help facilitate that understanding, if you might not think about going to some kind of level of political engagement, but you see that I'm going to be there, somebody that's from the community, and that gives you a little more motivation to come and to be engaged, I'm happy to do that."

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"And very last thing, you know, for you as you use this new platform and you talk to maybe more candidates or hold more events like this, you know, what for you is the most important message that you want to get out with your platform when you're talking to these candidates?"

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"So, there's two messages. Well, I want people to understand this: I don't do this all the time. I do it very selectively, in part because, you know, I think there are political engines and politicians that are coming from a bad faith perspective, so I won't participate in that. But, you know, I think what's, the reason why I've decided to engage in this way and what's important, is that listen, everybody pays taxes, okay? Sales tax, city tax, FICA, federal, like, we pay all the taxes."

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"And to me, what I try to connect with people, especially those who will say they don't like politics or they don't get involved in politics, I was like, whether you choose to or not, politics is involved with you. And if somebody on the street came up to you and said, 'Give me $10,000 right now, I'm not going to tell you what I'm doing with it, where I'm going with it, or anything that's happening with it,' you would think they were crazy. But people do it all the time."

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"It's like, you are paying tax dollars, there's a level of accountability that has to be there, otherwise you're just throwing your money away. If you don't add that system of accountability, you're literally telling a politician, 'Here, take all my money, and I don't care what you do with it after that.' And I find that that connects with people, and I also find what connects with people, especially when you look at how the voting tends to sag off in a non-presidential election year."

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"Your local politicians in many ways, a lot of ways, are more important than the president. And I don't say that to dismiss what it means to have a president who obviously makes really big decisions that impact our lives, but who the members of your school board are, who is your mayor, who is your council rep, all of those things determine how you move on a daily basis."

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"When you're upset about the lack of city services, no garbage removal, insurance rates, all of that comes back to locally what the situation is. And so I find that once you kind of break through to people what's important, then it starts to connect. I want to encourage people most importantly to participate in this. The democracy isn't going to stand up by itself, it requires participation."

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"And so I hope what I'm able to convey by doing these conversations is that hey, y'all, we gotta participate in this. I know you might have thought that certain rights were won, those rights aren't won forever. You have to fight for them for a lifetime. Not just one election, not just two elections, not five elections, literally your whole life."
"Thank you so much."
"Thank you."

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All right, with that, we are done for today on your Daily Detroit. Thank you so much to our members on Patreon, patreon.com/dailydetroit. You know, a lot of media outlets are awash in revenue right now with the campaign season. We're not one of them! We're not, because let me tell you, we don't take influencer money. Nope. We did not be part of any of those campaigns getting dollars from them. I'm second-guessing that every day!

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Or the legacy media where you are bombarded with political ads. That's right. The side thing of that is that also a lot of other people don't want to advertise when we're talking about politics because it's been so brutal out there. It has been, and you know what? I just hope at the end of all this, by the end of next week, people can sit back, take a deep breath, and we can kind of get back to the business of running the doggone country and running the doggone city.

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