Haley Stevens Heel Turns On Abdul El-Sayed + Remembering Juan Atkins

Haley Stevens Heel Turns On Abdul El-Sayed + Remembering Juan Atkins

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Norris Howard and I unpack a massive election eve bombshell as U.S. Representative Haley Stevens makes a last-minute turn against fellow Democrat Abdul El-Sayed to endorse Republican Mike Rogers for U.S. Senate. Who knew we'd have a November surprise, and that it'd look just like a wrestling storyline.

We break down the immediate fallout across Michigan politics, the massive fundraising backlash, and what this high-stakes political drama means for local voters.

Plus, we pay tribute to the legendary Juan Atkins, the Belleville Three pioneer and undisputed originator of Detroit techno, following his sudden passing at age 64.

Feedback as always: dailydetroit@gmail.com or 313-789-3211.

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00:00:00 Remembering Detroit Techno Pioneer Juan Atkins
00:06:22 Haley Stevens Endorses Republican Mike Rogers
00:08:00 Perfecting Church Press Conference Fallout
00:12:00 Dark Money Targeting Detroit Voters
00:15:30 Democratic Backlash and El-Sayed Fundraising Surge
00:22:00 Shifting Political Coalitions in Michigan
00:27:01 Final Michigan Polling Before Election Day

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