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Pizza Picks and Neighborhood Politics

Norris Howard Norris Howard Detroit, MI

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Today on the show, Norris, Devon, and I talk about the reported resolution of that recent City Council inquiry involving small businesses in West Village we talked about earlier this week

We break down the intense community backlash, the broader tensions, and why city governments need to focus on removing red tape for local entrepreneurs instead of throwing up roadblocks.

Then, on a much lighter note, we celebrate Michigan & Trumbull Pizza being named one of the top pizza spots in America by Food & Wine magazine!

That kicks off a lively debate about our go-to everyday pizza joints versus our favorite experimental spots, Devon's wild thin-crust take, and where we land on Supino.

Finally, we wrap things up with a quick look at a few new restaurant openings on both sides of town.

Places Mentioned Today: Two Birds, Barkside, Bar IX, Grandma Bob's, Michigan & Trumbull, Jet's, Pie-Sci, Bellacino's, Buddy's, Amar Pizza (Hamtramck), Mama Rosa's, Loui's (Hazel Park), Supino Pizzeria, Baobab Fare East (East Warren), Capers, G. Grant Steakhouse (Dearborn), Spiedo (Midtown)

We're brought to you by our members: patreon.com/dailydetroit - also, your feedback is welcome dailydetroit@gmail.com or 313-789-3211.

00:00:00 Introduction to Daily Detroit
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00:13:28 Detroit Style Favorites and Supino Debate
00:15:15 New Detroit and Dearborn Restaurant Openings
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