Should The Wings or Tigers Be Sold? Plus 5 Stories Around Town

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We're breaking down what's happening around Metro Detroit. From local lunch spots to rooftop reservation changes to a Midtown coffee shop closure, skyrocketing gas prices, and a debate on the future of our local sports franchises.

Here's today's rundown:

01:33 — Where we've been: Unc's for Lunch. Devon checks out Unc's for lunch and breaks down the space, menu, and midday vibe.

05:19 — Pine Hall now requires reservations. What you need to know before trying to grab a drink or a table downtown this weekend.

11:03 — Red Hook Midtown is closing. The Woodward Avenue shop shutters September 26, ending a three-year run. What should go there next?

15:10 — In a thought experiment, would you sell the Tigers or Red Wings? With both franchises facing big questions, we debate whether it's time for new ownership for one of these historic teams so there's the ability for ownership to focus to make one thrive.

19:04 — Gas and diesel prices skyrocket. Prices across Michigan are creeping up toward $5 for gas and even higher for diesel. What's driving the surge, what it means for consumers, and what is the breaking point for Michiganders?

23:16 — The RenCen conversation. We have an interview planned next week, we'd love your constructive questions on the plans.

Got thoughts on today's episode or questions? Drop us a line at dailydetroit@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 313-789-3021.

Thanks for your support on Patreon!

00:00:00 Welcome to Daily Detroit
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00:11:03 Red Hook Coffee Midtown Is Closing
00:15:10 Debating Red Wings and Tigers Ownership
00:19:04 Gas and Diesel Prices Skyrocket Across Michigan
00:23:16 Bedrock Plans RenCen Riverfront Redevelopment

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Should The Wings or Tigers Be Sold? Plus 5 Stories Around Town

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