Our Friday conversation is with former Detroit Police Chief, former Detroit deputy mayor and educator Isaiah “Ike” McKinnon.

He served decades in the community he loves and has big ideas for what we could do to reimagine what a police department is.

Ideas you might not expect to hear out of a former police chief. And some of them might be familiar to you if you have seen the demands of protestors on the streets today.

Also, a couple of housekeeping notes. Sven is on vacation next week.

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